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DmC is another embodiment of "don't judge a book by its cover", it seems. With at least 80% on 26 out of 27 reviews and places like IGN and Kotaku praising the character development and new focus, it looks like this version of Dante wins this round. Way to go :D

Now, what about sales? Huh...

Still, now it's up to MGR Revengeance to live up to its name.
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:iconjared789:
Jared789 Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014
Some people are still hating the new Dante...
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jun 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Let them be.
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SolitaryLapTopTVLove Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014
Exactly. Sales which you know most video games companies tend to care more about than a bunch of reviewers kissing their asses. It is the worst selling game in the series. Even worse than DMC2.

As for the acclaimed part,I don't think so. While this game may claim to have so many positive reviews then how come Ninja Theory wants nothing to do with the series anymore and Capcom has remained silent on the matter. Face it the fans want the original and real Dante back and not this jackass.

Keep those positive biased reviews for all I care.

MGR Reveengeance may get a sequel and has a better reception than this hot trash.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Alright. Thanks for the input.
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Jinbo71 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2014
Looks like haters gonna hate.
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greece4life Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Am I the only person who thinks that Dante here has a troll face?
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MetroGamerX Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2013
I think the Old one's in there
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Ryuhza Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
The new Dante really grew on me. Looking back, I don't really like the old one. To "way cool" to be interesting as a character. Even his look reeks of it.
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JadtheDog Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
I heard the only good thing was the gameplay, which is the most important thing in every game. So I'll give it a chance when I'm done with the original series.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, I rented it for 5 days, and I actually really liked everything from the looks to the plot, and it got a nice sense of humor. If anything, my problem with the gameplay was that the combos could be so deep that at times I kept forgetting what each button should do, but it shouldn't be a problem for most people.
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cryptozoologist138 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2013
Who needs sales, popularity, and critical acclaim across the board when you have t he IGN seal of approval mirite?
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RoseNakahara Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2013
And sales are horrible XD take that you piece of crap game!
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alienhominid2000 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
DmC's Dante expression tell the angry and hardcore DMC fans: "Who laughing now?" or "Go back to UMvC3's Dante"

Great pic anyway.
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TheTalon34 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Lol I knew it would be this wa.......ok I didn't but hopefully people will stop complaining now
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JulieKrizan Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Student Digital Artist
That is a beautiful trollface.
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sav8197 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
finalmente encontre un review justo para este juego :D [link]

no lo critica por ser distinto a los juegos anteriores, ni tampoco le da un 10 de 10 solo por que es "badass", de hecho menciona los aspectos buenos y malos que tiene el juego :)
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Asi son las cosas :P
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nightwish912 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yo no tomo mucho en cuenta los reviews porque casi siempre hay mucho $$$$$ de por medio. Sino no se explica que juegos como COD: Modern Warfare 3 tengan 89 de puntuación.
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SpongeDudeCoolPants Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Dante spent the last few months in Playstation all stars battle royale training with Parappa the Rapper!
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ssjthug Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
just shows that gamers really are sheeps. -_-
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Britt601 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
That may be for these gaming sites, but what about the user reviews, especially on Metacritic?
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
After reading stuff like 10/10 because he's a badass and 0/10 because his hair isn't white, I lose the inspiration to go through the over 70 reviews on Metacritic. An average of 86 for 30 or so pseudo-reliable mass sources, against the 33 average of the coaster of madness that vocal hatred, extreme fanboyism and the occassional "10/10 because eff you FANBOYS". Consider:

- If anyone wanted to take the game at what it is regardless of history, it doesn't seem to deserve less than a 60 to me, with all the modes, scenarios, powers, upgrades and action not-unlike Darksiders, Bayoneta or even God of War. If they're good games, I don't see why this one can't be, regardless of how DMC-ish it is or it isn't.
- Many of those reviews, both extreme good or bad, can come from people that has only played the demo, or not even that.
- Anyone that actually decided to pay over $50 for the game would most likely play it for a while and come out with something to praise even if he/she didn't like at all the characters. The music, the graphics, the upgrades, the enemies... anything at all.

Neither is a true indicative of how good something is. Some might want to blindlessly believe the media, as I do, while others might want to share their opinions with those alike. I just decided to band with what overall seems more fair to me. If the general public does hate it, I don't see why I should hate it too without even trying it.
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Britt601 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I didn't say anything about you being in the wrong or right about liking or hating it, I was just saying , perhaps I didn't emphasize it enough, that there seems to be a large gap in the review scores.

Many of the gaming sites seems to think its okay, but those who have played it, panned it. And usually, in THIS day and age, demos are basically the finished game and they give you a bit to sample until it somes out. And those reviews from the users seemed pretty detailed and legit if they bought the game or played the demo, excluding the ones just looking to hate or love the game for no reason.

Usually, with some games, gamers and media critics meet somewhere in the middle, somewhat, but with this game, it's at the opposite end of the spectrum. I find that to be very odd is all. Many media personnel like it, many gamers hate it. It just seems fishy how that turned out.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I still believe that the gap is a result of extremists. Gamers and critics can meet somewhere in the middle for the average game, but go look for stuff like Sonic for example. A Sonic Rider game had an awful score from a site (IGN?) and the game reviewers were giving it perfect 10s because apparently it was a timeless classic or something. Mass Effect 3 got its share of bad reviews from some as well solely because of the ending, disregarding every other aspect of the game.

That's what I find very off. We don't see a million reviews for every game that is sold. We see just a few, and some of them are quite strong.
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Britt601 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Hm, you say extremists, I say paid reviews. I can't really compare it to games of a different genre because that would be a little unfair (FPS,MMO) but as an action tile, as a stand alone from the DMC series, it could have been so much better. Seems like many of these reviewers are only looking on the surface (anti's too) than actually going into the specifics.

Then again, I never really trust reviews from gaming sites, especially IGN and Gamespot. It's only acclaimed if I enjoyed it. But to each its own. I only take their words as opinion. If you like it, congrats.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I still believe that they can't pay for 25+ reviews without anyone noticing. I wouldn't go as far as to say that either everyone is ignoring key aspects or that they're dissing the reviews due to disagreement, as I don't want to check all those different reviews for a game that I won't buy until it drops the price :I
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Liliththeottsel Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Gotta love this trollface :iconwthplz: there's need to be an emoticon of this face...
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AleXandrYuZ Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh visto que la mayoria de las empresas le dieron buenos puntos al juego y los "fans" ahora les tiran cualquier clase de mierda, no se si llegue a pasar, pero si Angry joe le hace un reseña positiva al juego creo que o la mayoria de los haters se van a cortar la venas, o AJ va a recivir un asedio de proporciones biblicas.
Eso si hace un reseña positiva claro, aunque no se si AJ sea un fan o no de los viejos DMC.
Yo soy un fan, y adiferencia de lo que muchos piensan, la idea del reboot no era tan mala enrealidad, tengo mis razones.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eso si me gustaria verlo.
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Eggheadcobra Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
My thoughts, exactly!! :D
According to websites like Metacritic and Game rankings (Sites that take other review scores, and add them up) DmC has a HIGHER score than DMC3 and DMC4 :XD:
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PandaSennin Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Filmographer
That doesn't necessarily mean it's better.
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Eggheadcobra Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Well if DmC got a higher score than DMC3 and 4, then DmC must be doing something wright.
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PandaSennin Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Filmographer
Maybe but my point still stands though.
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ultraoddscreation Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
[link] This is something that Shows how an old fan hates this reboot... By using his various impersonations.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hah. That was quite funny indeed. Thanks for the link.
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thebloodreaver Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Publications and official "journalists" of the media my be happy, but there have been quite a few gamers that say otherwise.

Like this guy, for example... [link]
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They can't satisfy everyone. We can keep linking to articles and friends that both like or hate the game and we won't end anytime soon. For instance, check gamefaqs' discussion boards. No matter what side you're on, you'll end with a headache.
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thebloodreaver Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
No, they can't satisfy everyone, but they could have started on good terms by not deliberately attempting to divide and insult the fanbase.
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't consider trying a new approach an insult, just a major risk.
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thebloodreaver Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Honestly, i would have been "ok" if it was just that. But the fact is that they STILL actively berated fans who had a disagreement with the changes in gameplay, story, and design.

If they would have said, "We understand the fans concern over this game, but we wish you to trust us in this and hopefully come along on the journey as we build this new game." instead of laughing at and insulting the fanbase and their preferences. People did cause a stink over the initial trailer, but they DIDN'T take the professional route, and instead used some of the more basic negative comments as ammo to shoot down any concerns or critical thoughts that people may have. You know how infuriorating it is when you talk about the gameplay in comparison to DMC3, and some asshole shoots it down by saying "you just don't like it because of the hair", or something along those lines? Do you know where that shit started?
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't suppose you're willing to read the spanish version of my conversation, right? It dragged for too long, and I don't want to have type it again :I

Still, I haven't seen where they "laughed and insulted" the fanbase and their preferences. If anything, I've seen people dissing each other after Ninja Theory's statement of "We made the decisions and we're sticking with them". From there, pro-new call the others Sheep, and anti-new call the others blasphemers.

Not once have I seen the developers actively dissing their fans. That would have been in news all over the place.
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thebloodreaver Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know spanish, so it would be kinda useless to read through what i won't understand...

Actually, you'd be rather surprised to know what journalists and the media don't tell you. Ever heard of a guy named EventStatus (Aka, Main Event TV, Aka, METV)? He has videos dedicated to this kind of stuff, even providing clips and links as proof. He's a bit loud, and maybe rather frank, but he still backs up his thoughts very well. If you want, i can provide you a link to his videos...
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll be honest. I'd watch a few seconds and skip to the comments, but thanks though. I've seen a few cases myself, like that one man that got fired for giving a bad review to a paying company, and the hell that App makers go through to get companies to review their works, regardless of the outcome.

I know that not everything is what it seems, but really, it applies to either way. I can either side with the pseudo-reliable media that can be controlled through money or try to make sense of the mess that comes with thousands of fans and anti-fans writing and blogging with ease all over the internet. I'm just sticking to reviews since they are clearer to me.
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Sirenaloreley Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Es una pena, pero los únicos que están hablando bien del DmC son las empresas... si te metes a Metacritic, por ejemplo, los players y gamers están destrozando el juego: jugabilidad lenta, todas las dificultades son fáciles, terriblemente mala historia, diálogos espantosos, y gráficos que empiezan siendo atractivos pero luego se vuelven aburridos... y rejugabilidad? cuasi nula.
El juego es malo, y está empezando a verse...

Moraleja: no hacer caso de las críticas de empresas... después de todo, pueden estar pagadas. Para qué le darían un 10/10 a un juego mediocre que no está a la altura de los anteriores DMC? ni siquiera es superior al DMC2... y jamás estará a la altura del DMC3 o DMC4...
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
El problema es que siento que puedo confiar mas en las empresas porque tienen hasta cierto punto credibilidad (ignorando que se les puede pagar), mientras que los fans tienen la facilidad de crear sus clubes de odio y asediar en conjunto.

Metacritic y Gamerankings tiene calificacion de criticos de 86, mientras que los fans dan uno de 3.3. Y, seriamente, los videos no demuestran un juego de segunda. Tomando la primer critica de un fan - 0 porque no le gusto la broma de la peluca -, es dificil de tomar a todos en serio. Por ejemplo, odie el juego de Sonic Riders, y los fans le daban 100 por aqui y por alla.

El punto es que la empresa apunto a nuevos jugadores. Sin duda hay muchos fans enojados, pero aquellos como yo que no crecieron con un modelo de Dante pueden apreciar mas facilmente el resto. Los fans tienen su derecho de estar enojados, supongo, pero deben de ser mas realistas al expresarse.
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Sirenaloreley Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Mhhh, no sé... recuerda que las empresas sólo quieren tu dinero...
Los fans pueden ser poco creíbles, es verdad, pero al menos es gente con la que podés discutir (hasta un cierto punto), y tal vez llegar a un punto de acuerdo sin sacarse los ojos... las empresas sólo te palmean la espalda mientras te meten la mano en el bolsillo...

Yo perdí la fe en Capcom desde Ashura's Wrath y sus DLC con el verdadero final (eso tiene una etiqueta de 'robo' para mí)... y con DmC lo que veo es un desesperado intento por vender (nunca había visto que un juego tuviera tanta propaganda y que sacara el DLC con tanta anticipación antes que saliera el juego en sí... y gratis? para nada, igual tenés que pagar los 60$, cuando que si esperás a que baje el precio te terminás comprando el juego a 10$ y el DLC a 9.90$...). Y tampoco me gustó la actitud de la empresa encargada del juego, NinjaTheory, burlándose de los fans y de sus quejas; tendrían que haber aceptado las críticas con profesionalismo, tratar mejor a los fans ('futuros compradores') pero en lugar de eso empezaron a insultarlos, a llamarlos 'haters', 'sheeps', y demás...

Y ojo, que entre los 'fans' del DmC hay gente que es igual de cerrada. Es más que visible el hecho de que el juego no es un 10/10, es apenas un hack n' slash mediocre que no está a la altura de DMC3 (que es un juego de Play2), pero igual hay 'DmC fanboys' que no sólo van a sostener contra viento y marea que es 'EL MEJOR JUEGO EN LA HISTORIA' sino que si llegas a decirles algo para contraargumentar, inmediatamente te saltan al cuello...

Lo más triste de todo eso es que el Fandom está irremediablemente dividido, y que nunca volveremos a ver un verdadero DevilMayCry con el estilo anterior. Es más que seguro que Capcom no saque un DevilMayCry si el DmC es exitoso (porque sacarán un DmC2 y no un DMC5), y si el DmC fracasa tampoco lo sacarán y dejarán que la franquicia se muera, como Megaman...

Recuerda que, en su librito, si no ganan dinero con esto, no les conviene seguirlo... es sólo un negocio para ellos, después de todo.

No digo nada de esto por pelear, sólo quiero expresar mi punto de vista respecto de todo este asunto... me alegro que seas accesible para conversar sin empesar a insultar (como muchos DmC fanboys hacen por aquí...) :handshake: .
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bien observado, aunque seguimos difiriendo en muchos puntos, empezando por la idea de que NinjaTheory insultaba a sus fans. Esos eran otros fans insultando fans. NinjaTheory meramente menciono que se apegarian al plan.

De la misma forma que rechazaron las quejas, se vieron obligados a ignorar amenazas de muerte ([link]). Siempre son unos pocos los que llaman la atencion, y sus acciones no reflejan lo que TODOS los fans piensan, pero de la misma forma, no se puede generalizar que la mayoria lo aprecie o lo odie, ni los motivos. Y por mas bueno que sea, concuerdo en que no da la impresion de ser lo mejor del mundo.

Y, desgraciadamente, tambien tienes razon en que es un negocio para ellos. Donde dejen de verlo asi, pueden perder hasta la cabeza. Companias grandes como THQ estan cerrando por no haber podido competir en ese sentido, y varias practicas de Capcom, aunque sean mal vistas, siguen resultando porque la gente lo sigue comprando, demostrando una vez mas que aun si existen miles que se quejan de algo, existen muchos otros que lo aplauden.

Y aun asi, cabe preguntar, si lo que les importa es vender, por que no comenzaron con el diseno anterior desde el principio? Eso les habria ayudado, pero tuvieron sus diferencias creativas y optaron por tomar riesgos con algo mas fresco. Solo el tiempo dira como funciono. Pero realmente, apoyo la nocion (aunque temo que debo esperar a que baje de precio).

La conversacion se esta volviendo un poco larga, pero vaya que esta interesante. Igualmente, admiro que seas alguien de quien se pueden esperar argumentos justos y controlados. Bien hecho, saludos :iconfistbumpplz:
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Sirenaloreley Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Como siempre digo, es bueno poder conversar con gente así; no coincidimos en nuestras opiniones, pero al menos no nos estamos arrancando la cabeza mutuamente XD.

Supongo que el gran lío siempre empezó y terminó con los fans, pero NinjaTheory no hizo nada por suavizar las aristas; en lugar de eso, continuó haciendo 'guiños' para los fans, que en lugar de parecer graciosos sólo resultaron contraproducentes (ej: 'Oh, lo que era cool en los 90 ya no es cool en estos tiempos', la infame frase de Antoniades. Bueno, DMC1 es del 2001, asique en esa frase peca de ignorancia para empezar... y acaso ser 'cool' es una cuestión de períodos históricos? ser 'cool' es una cuestión de actitud, y Dante siempre lo fue sin necesidad de parecer un punk sucio y malhablado. Otro guiño, el asunto de la peluca blanca; cuando el juego empieza y a Dino se le cae la peluca en la cabeza y él se muestra despectivo diciendo 'Not in a thousand years...'... acaso no es una burla a los fans por el asunto del pelo? A los fans dejó de importarles el que Dino tenga pelo negro hace mucho, pero parece ser que NT goza echando leña al fuego... y eso sin mencionar que Dino termina teniendo el pelo blanco al final... hipocresía + incoherencia *sigh*)

Ah, Event Status también habló de las 'amenazas de muerte'... pues, un video fanmade burlándose de la apariencia de Dino no me resulta en verdad demasiado amenazante. Si hubo algo más, lo que puedo decir es que NT usó todo lo que tuvo a su alcance para desacreditar a los que se quejaban... no es justo...
Te aconsejo si quieres ver los videos sobre DmC hechos por Event Status en youtube, él organiza la información de manera excelente, y sin pelos en la lengua.

Finalmente, el diseño anterior... en serio, no sé por qué no se aferraron a eso. Supongo que Capcom sabía que los fans se resistirían al cambio, especialmente de un personaje tan poderosamente icónico como Dante. Acaso querían alimentar la propaganda con discusiones? alguien me dijo una vez que 'la mala propaganda igual es propaganda'... DmC hubiera pasado mucho más desapercibido si los fans (tanto los pro como los anti) no hubiesen levantado tanto barullo.
Capcom admitió que quería un cambio, algo refrescante... pero hay veces que el cambio drástico es malo, no te parece? Hubiera preferido mil veces ver a Nero que a este Dante rebooteado (o Dino, como prefiero llamarlo). Y no es sólo la apariencia, sino también el ambiente y el tono general de la historia. DevilmayCry nunca se caracterizó por tener una historia profunda (excepto el 3 en mi opinión), pero eso se debía a que el punto fuerte siempre ha sido el combate rápido, divertido y desafiante...
DmC falla en ambos puntos: una historia llena de agujeros y dolorosamente cliché e inoriginal, y un sistema de combate simplificado que te permite obtener una SSS con tres golpes. Muy bueno para los 'casuals', pero pésimo para los fans de larga data...

Bueno, mi amigo, creo que mejor cortamos esto aquí... nuevamente te agradezco en el alma tus respuestas, porque me hacen sentir esperanzas en relación con el fandom en general; se puede disentir y al mismo tiempo ser sociables.
El tiempo dará la razón a uno u otro... de momento sólo queda esperar (y de mi parte, ver qué juego comprar para reemplazar el dolor que me causó el DmC... mh, tal vez MGR...).
Saludos y cuídate!!!
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Memoski Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Concuerdo. No acabaremos pronto (y me quede sin respuestas a muchas cosas ._.)

Que esta conversacion sirva de referencia a generaciones futuras. Suerte :iconlachoirplz:
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sav8197 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
el juego se ve bueno y ademas los tipos de Ninja theory ya han demostrado antes que pueden hacer buenos juegos :D

pero aun pienso que el juego es demasiado distinto de los originales y que deveria ser una serie distinta con otro nombre por que sino eso solo confunde a la gente :P
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